(Like money, work, how one treats others possessions, punctuality, use or misuse of power, objectively insulting words, etc.) Youll be happier and lighter without the constant criticism and monitoring, and hell be happier with someone who has the qualities he wants in his new, improved partner (or hell find a willing victim for Coach Body Police: Infinity Annoying Steps To the New You!). It was hard on both of us. It is better to be on your own than to have the weight of someone elses expectations on you. Walking is much better for me, sure it isnt strenuous (seriously, WTF????) If he is unhappy in the relationship, this makes him less inclined to make an effort. When he would not go to counseling with me, I went by myself. Dont be accusatory or judgmental when you do this. Until he tells you what the problem is, just let it be. And its also vanishingly unlikely that he can be moved out of the fixer mode. As a friend once wisely told me, theres a difference between helping each other grow and one person pointing out your flaws in detail after knowing you so intimately with the excuse that its supposed to help. A Redditor has been slammed online for trying to dictate to their sister's boyfriend how they should eat their dinner. Stop trying to control your partner. Some of our friends came up with a concotion called a Mahi Mahi pizza, which is basically a Hawaiian pizza with anchovies. You know when they got worse? . Because I didn't have my phone, he started asking me these questions in person. Boyfriend stopped texting me good morning. Seriously. Controlling never helps this situation, taking care of me and then helping him as he asks to be helped is what helps this situation. Its just really hard to take that final step sometimes, and back off, but its exactly what I need to do. I dont know. He says I'm too negative and I have no friends and I'm not self sufficient. If you decide that its not, then break up with him and move on. This guy is manipulative. OTOH, healthy eating and exercise are also always promoted as the big pop-cultural panaceas for depression and are indeed helpful tools for some people, sometimes, but unfortunately mesh far too well with the cultural meme that people are only sick (or fat) because theyre lazy, greedy or just Not Trying Hard Enough. If you want to impress them you try to look decent, plan something that sounds fun, and offer to pay. He used to be the one who cheered you up when you were down, but now he is also always in a bad mood. But this is what worried me most when I read your letter. If nothing changes, then its time to decide whether this is something you can live with or not. Ugh, replying to myself. Dont get me wrong, a self-confident woman can look up to and admire her boyfriend, but not in the specific ways he was after. After a week or so of adjusting, you can figure out how you feel on your own. Totally. Its okay that I attended to that other stuff first. That stupidest thing Ive ever heard bit set off major alarm bells for me, too. I live on the other side of this equation. Affection is not only limited to physical touch -- he may also avoid showing affection through words. A friend of mine called this sort of explanation, First, the earth cooled, Beware of I am very logical as a cover for I dont think your feelings matter and I dont care if I hurt you.. Best of luck and all my thoughts. I focus on how each time he does so, its a good thing he is doing, and I am proud of him for it. We dont need to split up so I wanted to highlight that things dont need to be The Worst for you to decide a particular behavior needs to stop. If your partner loves you, then he'll be open to working on them with you. Because if so, you need to skip all the subtler steps and skip straight to Therapist, these things my boyfriend does and says are making it worse, help! Right now. Honestly the best thing for me was talking with a therapist on my own and learning boundaries (see my comments above). He tends to expect peoples feelings to be comprehensible and based on clear, material realities. But, if that was all there was to it, he wouldnt be getting angry when she isnt doing those things, or dismissing and belittling her words. Comfort is a vital part of challenging yourself. Seriously. You deserve to be with someone who shows you respect who likes you the way you are, who isnt always trying to fix you and who listens when you ask him to stop certain behaviours rather than telling you your request is ridiculous. Pick one.. So this guy is trying everything he can to fix the LWbut since depression makes people act against their best interests, the boyfriend doesnt trust said LW to deal with this on their own. It could be as simple as saying to him, I noticed you've been distant recently, is there something bothering you? Release your grip and be open to any possibility in your relationship. And another thing Its generally accepted that self-care is good for self-esteem. Copyright 2011 thru 2023 Jennifer Peepas, all rights reserved. If you havent seen your friends in a while, call them/message them and schedule a hangout. Im going to read it again as soon Im done with this comment. Eating is a big thing for me and something I skip doing when my brain gets jerky. And it is reasonable to want people who are important in your life to be supportive and helpful. So LW: dump your boyfriend, or dont dump your boyfriend. I find that when one person is overly invested in helping someone else, its often an indicator that they have their own issues which theyre trying to feel better about. I believe that my boyfriend (of almost 2.5 years) wants to help me succeed, be better, and do what we both know Im capable of. Getting a sense of your boundaries, and reclaiming them is indeed a sign that you are getting better. I 100 million percent second this. You know what, these are things that I have my therapist/doctor to advise me about. I noticed that when I bicycle up hills, a lot of times whatever upset me that day/week/month will start to replay at fever pitch inside my head. Hes drained; dealing with this depression has sucked his soul out, but he cant tell you that because as I found out pretty clearly in my depressive episodes, someone telling you theyre out of energy to deal with your chronic conditions just feels like your Jerkbrain saying nobody likes youso nobody will admit theyre weary. I would say the effect of increased exercise on my mental health is . And I know it takes me less effort to make myself presentable for people coming over to visit me, than it does to get out of the house. What could have turned him off about you in particular? Reactions based on internal, undisclosed standards isnt about keeping score, but it does have an effect, LW, and youve been feeling it: uncertainty, insecurity, and anxiety around their approval. 2. All the logical, reasonable, skeptical partners that the LWs describe are always trying to use their logic to make other people feel like crap about what they feel. Drownings letter feels very familiar. I generally figure that a persons issues are their own, and what they choose to do (or not) about them is their own decision. Please think about this carefully. When he was in a show that had evening rehearsals nearly every night of the week, I ordered personal Mahi Mahis like every single night. When Dude just tells you that he knows best for you, that is patronising as fuck. Leaving an abusive partner later on didnt scare me as much. Just looking at those two sentences beside each other without anything else made me realize how ridiculous they sound. Whether it was a lot or a little, it will carry you to tomorrow. That was published just a few weeks after I dumped my ex for basically being both of those LWs SOs. Because Reasons? I think your bf is in love with the idea of the person he wants to make you into, the person he wants you to look and act like in other words, hes in love with himself as he sees himself manifest through you. And from the sound of you, you are taking care of you LIKE A BOSS. Hlepy is a word I learned over at Making Light. Cosigned. Do you want my help with remembering to do X? He was trying to help in similarly pushy ways. Its an unfortunate reality that some couples are couples not because they are passionately in love, but because its easier to stay together than it is to break up. Hello, me from the past! I like this script because it avoids the teacher/student roles and makes exercise and cleaning and healthy eating something for EVERYONE. Id say all this really depends on the details. Re-reading I realized the last couple lines sounded really patronizing and I didnt mean it that way. Designate a time to have a conversation just the two of you. They are what they are, and you cant force someone to evolve. Listen to his response and try to . Thats why Ive always resisted the exercising with a boyfriend thing. You Police Their Food Or Body. But it will definitely *not* help if Im already in a funk, other than possibly giving me an excuse to go outside and do something vaguely useful-feeling. Demand constant direct Snaps, video calls, phone calls and dedicated videos. And you dont either, no matter what your boyfriend says. Him: You havent been to the gym today! You need people who are delighted by you and people who see you as competent and great. Remote kissing device for long-distance lovers, invented and patented by Chinese university student in Changzhou City.The mouth-shaped module, served as an inducing area . There are the ones who will, when lovingly-but-firmly redirected, go and renovate the bathroom instead, and then there are the ones who wont. When people get all up on how logical and not swayed by petty emotions they are, I always end up thinking about the narrator of Ancillary Justice an AI whos been programmed with emotions because they *allow her to make better decisions*. Because this literally never means My partner likes to get all the information about a problem before trying to solve it, or S/he really likes to do her/his research about an issue. By your own admission, youve already made a lot of progress in therapy, and I would suggest that removing his constant nagging about all of your decisions would help you make a lot more. Sometimes its nice to have a gentle push towards a sincerely held goal, but getting mad at you for not meeting some standards that he made up? Work. It seems to be the get-out-of-jail-free card for everyones tactless remarks and dumbass behaviour. But let me tell you a little of my story. No matter a guys reason for not putting in an effort, it doesnt excuse his behavior. Agreed. I have been in a relationship for 2 years with a wonderful person who has low moods too. He no longer answers his phone as quickly as before. LW, as someone who struggles with depression with a spouse who struggles with depression, heres what concerns me about your letter: Your boyfriend is expecting you to be accountable to a list of tasks hes set, rather than treating you with compassion and helping you help yourself. Prioritize on how to deal with your boyfriend and setting boundaries, because I know from experience, it can tear down your progress in a flash. This boyfriend sounds a little like my mother, and finances have forced me to live with the rents for a bit, so I appreciate the tips and scripts Ive read here. i suffer from anxiety, have self esteem issues and insecuriti. He would critique all of my eating habits (If I ate a piece of candy, he would yell about how it is full of lard! and I would sit in front of him and make lots of eye contact and say Tasty tasty lard. But thats the best I can think of that might be of some help. He had money and I didnt. I suspect a lot of commenters are going to scream angry bees, run away, and theyre not wrong; your partners behavior is a bit like tiger stripes in tall grass: it looks like one thing (concern for you) but might be something far less pleasant. Youll never get toned if you slacken off like that! You: NOT YOUR CALL. Sometimes you just have to watch somebody else hurting and not be able to do anything about it. It took someone else to look horrified and reading the archives of CA or me to realise he would continue to hurt me because he didnt care about Actual me and my Actual feelings but the Girlfriend who he had in his head that bore no relation to who I was at all. Or maybe its because walking isnt competitive in any way? You didnt give details, but you did say that for much of your life, youve struggled with being constantly undermined. That said, Ive gotten him to doctors, fed him, and made sure he took his meds at his worst; Ive helped to monitor his moods and symptoms and brought changes up for his consideration when I notice changes. Yeah, my dad did things like that to me as a kid and it was bad. Earlier in your relationship, your partner was always interested in finding out things about you, from your goals and dreams, to your likes and dislikes, and even how your day was. They seem impatient Thats such an underhand control technique, as is the not-so-subtle belittling that happens in the guise of help.. This is not one of them. Your current partner sounds amazing based on that one tiny story you shared. Let him know youre concerned and explain why. You are not the only one. We both are very logic- and reason-focused people, but hes come to the conclusion that, if she just does these things, I wont have to deal with her being depressed.. I think thats a great suggestion. I think its easy for us to say DTMFA because we know none of the other persons good qualities. 5. When my sister who is also my best friend has something shes trying to do, like not eat badly, or do X activity for two weeks, I ask her ahead of time before she starts what if anything she wants me to do. If he comes back, then great but if not, dont be surprised or disappointed. Why would they do that to me?. For me, life is better without him. Like, no. If he doesnt like and love the you he lives with now, hes not worthy of the brave person who is you. I spent 10 years in this same spot eventually he broke up with me because I was not trying hard enough to evolve as a person. Its only been 8 months since that happened, but I havent been this happy in years. What can I say to make him want me again? Boyfriend, I have my therapist for coaching & helping me develop. You cant have every moment be a comfortable one otherwise youre never actually challenging yourself, but they are needed otherwise you burn out. People do get used to roles, and if youve been in the role of the sick one who needs help and your partner got used to the role of the competent one who knows what should be done and should be listened to, then you are challenging those roles by getting healthier. The only script I know of for remarks like that is What did you just say to me? As the Captain has pointed out, the LW is the expert on their own life and relationship, and probably has enough You need to in their life already without getting it here. Founded in 2010, Thought Catalog is owned and operated by The Thought & Expression Company, Inc. For over a decade, we've been at the bleeding edge of media, pioneering an infrastructure for creatives to flourish both artistically and financially. (Why cant the government just ask married or not married? He may be feeling like he is missing out on his life and it is time to get back into the single life. Even though I cant even do hosting as much as Id like and my home is a bit of a mess. You also have the feeling that something must be wrong between you two because it feels like there are more bad days than good ones lately. By the time our relationship came to an end, we fought about the stupidest things, because we were both really fighting over who got to decide how I behaved. You will never be trying hard enough/doing enough, because it is not about you. Theres no discussion or debate or simply respect for holding different views; he simply insulted your view in a way that seems designed to shut you up. And sometimes the answer is I cant. I should have left him at various points throughout the relationship but I just didnt see how bad it was until I had the vantage of hindsight. So now I absolutely have all these weird shame issues around food, which is probably why I could barely eat around my various romantic partners for yearsits just a crappy thing to do to anyone. Im rooting for you, LW, because this was one of the toughest ongoing issues in our relationship for a while, and I had to show him that what works as treatment for some people cant be applied to everyone broadly and without that persons permission. I think there are some other strategies you can follow that will improve things for you. And he gets a positive comment from me every time I am aware. renovate the bathrooms, start an advice columnit doesnt have to be terrible. So many hugs to you. I want to make him happy It's not about him, it's about you. Just. This is sporadic enough that it hasnt become a sticking-point in our relationship (yet! My partner trusted me about what was going on in my own body, even when it was weird and new and disturbing, and he didnt push me. It makes taking care of ourselves seem hard, even impossible on some days. And remember you are AWESOME for taking care of yourself and making such good progress. I think this list is a great idea! Ugh, people who think their duty to hound you into achieving your potential is more important than your need to be listened to when you say you dont like that and they should stop! Theyre frustrated with an inability to help, but love & respect their partner. Sure, for some people hearing about the severely-depressed woman who climbed Everest without oxygen, ran a multi-billion-dollar corporation, had a movie-star husband and five kids, and still managed to look fabulous straight out of bed, all without medication or therapy of any kind, is inspiring. The focus is making me incredibly uncomfortable, though. 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